christ that was probably the first time i’d ever tldr’d on a post before holy shit
"makoharu isn’t abusive!"
Alright I understand you love your “precious baby” so much, but honestly here.
Makoto Tachibana legit told Haruka Nanase he shouldn’t go with Rin to Australia because “we love you so much,” and that Haru must have something wrong with himself for wanting to go to Australia.
That is honestly the most emotionally manipulative shit I’ve seen in a LONG time and it doesn’t help at all that people were complaining about Haru hurting Makoto’s feelings. As if Haru wanting to do something that doesn’t involve his friends is unorthodox and he was in the wrong to do something he wants.
are you fucking kidding me? makoto said that he was worried about haru’s future and then he proceeded to tell him that they - him, nagisa and rei - were worried about him because they love him. at this point in time, neither makoto nor haru know that next episode haru and rin are going to australia.
stop changing what happened xoxoxo
Except there’s a huge difference between politely telling someone you’re worried for their possible negative choice and flat out saying there’s something wrong with them for wanting to do something?
It seems the near 45 people who saw this post as wrong are in the mindset Makoto’s conversation to Haru was innocent, even possibly caring in that he doesn’t want his friend to leave. But the problem is that the scene was written in such a way to where Makoto comes off as nowhere near to caring, but rather trying to manipulate Haru into staying; or at least so manipulative people have been taught for years that behavior is “romantic”. Well it isn’t.
Haru in the episode states that, “Where I swim and who I swim for, I’m free to decide that for myself!” after being told by his friend that going to Australia is wrong and that he HAS TO stay in Japan to swim for Iwatobi, rather than SHOULD. Makoto’s line that should’ve come off as a worried “It may not be the best decision to go with Rin,” instead sounds like he’s telling Haru he has no position to swim for anyone but Iwatobi because “they all love him” and something even along the lines of “there’s something wrong with you”?! How can that not sound manipulative as crap?! He’s essentially trying to make Haru feel guilty for finally wanting to do something by himself; like Haru breaking away from his friends implies he’s done something wrong.
I understand Makoto has been built as sort of this “parental figure” in Free so whatever he says is supposed to come off sweet and humble, but I know character flaws when I see them: Makoto felt selfish and didn’t want to give up Haru to Rin. It might be out of a love for him, but it’s a possessive love. Call me biased towards the fan-favorite, but that’s my two cents.
Frankly, the writers were too nice to him to convienently later write Haru wanting to go to Tokyo with him. If my friend said something like that to me, you wouldn’t believe how fast I would dump them out of my life!
Update: It appears now people are saying my entire line of logic is wrong because Makoto wasn’t aware Haru was planning a trip to Austrailia, rather it was that Haru wanted to attend a university in Tokyo. First off, that in no way derails anything I said prior; Haru wanted to do something, Makoto said “No you’re wrong stay with us so we won’t be sad,” end of story. A location mix-up doesn’t change that fact.
Actual quote by Haruka Nanase directed to Makoto Tachibana: “All you ever do is meddle with everyone! Stop sticking your nose in everyone else’s business!
What Makoto said to Haru was wrong: He could’ve explained his worry in any other way and it would’ve expressed the concern he has for Haru, but instead he chose to manipulate Haru into thinking wanting to go Tokyo, (there!!! I got the location right!! Happy now?!), is wrong because he’ll make everyone upset. He’s deliberately telling Haru his sense of individuality hurts others for the sake of keeping Haru around.
Makoto isn’t perfect, despite what the show has lead up to prove. He did something selfish, why is it so hard for you guys to accept a fictional character did something wrong?
everything you’re posting is a complete joke. i’m just going to reblog it and not say anything lmao
Haru in the episode states that, “Where I swim and who I swim for, I’m free to decide that for myself!” after being told by his friend that going to Australia is wrong and that he HAS TO stay in Japan to swim for Iwatobi, rather than SHOULD.
at what point did makoto ever tell haru not to go to australia and stay in japan? makoto also says in the same episode “you need to fly out into the world” (paraphrasing bc i don’t have the ep right now but he definitely says something to this effect)
if anything makoto is encouraging haru to go to australia despite not even known that rin was planning to take him with him
Makoto’s line that should’ve come off as a worried “It may not be the best decision to go with Rin,”
except he states in the next episode that going to australia would be an important trip for haru. he is supportive of the decision despite being shocked that rin didn’t tell any of them
He’s essentially trying to make Haru feel guilty for finally wanting to do something by himself; like Haru breaking away from his friends implies he’s done something wrong.”
wrong. hell, everyone in iwatobi was kind of pushing haru to break away from them. rei and nagisa wanted haru to go international and show everyone his swimming. and makoto wanted him to go out into the world and experience things bc he’s talented enough to do so. how is this in any way forcing haru to “stay with them”?
Haru wanted to do something, Makoto said “No you’re wrong stay with us so we won’t be sad,” end of story.
haru didn’t want to do anything. that’s what everyone was worried about. he was perfectly fine with the way things were. hell he even says this outrght. “i’m fine with the way things are” to which makoto replies “no it’s not”. everyone in iwatobi can see haru isn’t swimming as well as he used to and were trying to push him to find “his dream” aka “something he wanted to do”
if anyone wanted anyone to stay, it would be haru. he was visibly upset by makoto announcing his plans to go to tokyo and leaving him behind. haru was not welcome to change at this point. he wanted makoto to stay as dreamless as he was bc everyone else seemed to be know what they wanted to do already and he didn’t. this is the what the whole australia thing was trying to fix. by giving haru a change of pace and some time to think, he was able to find out what he really wanted to do. no one at any point “manipulated” him into wanting to stay in japan, end of story.
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